Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners

It is worth noting, as a general disclaimer, debating strategies involving the impersonation or co-option of otherwise hostile parties (such as radical conservatives, 4chan and groypers) are not uncontroversial within our community. This is especially the case where impersonators deploy pro-MAP arguments, and less so when attempting to project a negative image of anti-MAPs. This guide advises users how to employ impersonation, subversion and black propaganda against those said groups, or while impersonating them. It may also be of use within said groups, or where they share an interest with MAPs - for example, educating the public on the history of MAPs in the gay movement, or mobilizing outrage to further the cause of MAP visibility.

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Pedophile trolling for beginners: Insights from the MAP Movement's radical fringe.

Incorporating why "Newgon vols" sometimes impersonate alt-righters.

19/04/24 ◆ Jim Burton & PCMA

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"Pedophile trolling" is provocative online behavior most will characterize as "pedophile apologia".

As there is no shortage of functioning insane people online, pedophile trolling isn't necessarily the sole domain of pedophiles. With that said, if you post on sites such as Reddit, X and Quora, and are repeatedly accused by onlookers of being a pedo, you are probably engaged in de facto pedophile trolling.

If these accusations hurt, you should perhaps learn to live with them, or even to take advantage of your new-found infamy.

Deliberate trolling is a strategy that has worked for some MAP Activists, and not worked for others. Some of my operatives have tried to debate honestly and logically, only to be accused of being a pedophile. This pedestrian level of debate can be frustrating to some, but not the true pedo troll, who thrives in such situations.

Your success as a pedo troll ultimately depends on your level of skill, ability to impersonate and think like another person, plus the terms and behavioral norms on the platform you are using. The following personality types are generally unable to troll, use memes online, or can only do so in a highly predictable manner.

• Low-IQ.
• Narcissistic.
• Emotional.
• High levels of political "conviction" rather than just enjoying the game. An innate tendency to evaluate situations according to a theory of "justice".

As an example, I am none of the first three criteria, but have to put my judgmental tendencies on hold when engaging in pedophile trolling.

It is no coincidence the most radically left-wing MAPs I know have only had visibility-engineering successes playing themselves, or characters closely resembling their on-server personas. Some of these have been huge successes; but in my experience, it takes a fundamentally cynical, even borderline nihilistic mindset to thrive as an activist troll in the traditional sense - i.e. someone who can employ dishonesty to engineer visibility as per PCMA in 2022/23. I'll explain a bit later, why I feel pedophile critics of pedophile trolls (aside from being moralistic) miss the point, but I suspect it has a lot to do with this point in general.

What do we want to achieve?

Pedophile trolls are not aiming to convince whoever they are arguing with. The troll uses their opponent as a mechanism to recenter his radical ideology as "wise" or "street smart" by eliciting a predictable reaction before an audience. Demotivation of the target might be a side-benefit, but his real target is the "lurker" and less confident viewers who are not as inclined to come down on one side or the other. With this in mind, we make use of memes and links to information sites, to elaborate on our position without getting wordy.

You want to come across as "based" and make people laugh at hypocrisy; this way, you will get people on your side.

What are the best personas for trolling?

Just a note here; you should have a few social accounts in reserve if you need them, as per our technical guide to social media, as trolling results in multiple bans. Try to put some organic activity on each account first, ideally unrelated or tangentially so, to your cause.

Generally, these days, a conservative or alternative-right persona works best, because conservatives are assumed to be more counterculture, outrageous and un-PC. Why not identify explicitly as someone who exposes and corrects hypocrisy in liberals? After all, MAPs suffer a great deal from liberal hypocrisy and liberals who are complicit in carceral state politics and lawmaking.

Liberal or moderate personas do actually work, if there is something uncannily radical and emotionally triggering about them, such as a sex educator supporting anonymity for students who are in sexual relationships with adults. My most successful viral threads - those exceeding 1M impressions used liberal or moderate personas to bait conservatives, but then I only ever used liberal personas to avoid offending MAPs, who I am well aware lean left. While there is no shortage of (often, completely unironic) woke pedo ragebait out in the wild, I maintain that some of the best unexplored opportunities for the pedo troll, are those perpetuated by purported traditionalist pedophiles in order to inflame liberals' awareness of their own reactionary hypocrisies, and even seed infighting among conservatives. While MAP rights is always destined to be a radical, or at least socially libertarian struggle, I feel this counterintuitive strategy would add a new aspect to the culture war - one where both sides are fair game. Where both sides are vulnerable to accusations of pedophile ideology, our struggle for visibility then transcends conventional radicalism; the pedophile himself transcends the political and is thus humanized. Literally anybody could be a pedophile.

We might also consider that online, actual mainstream liberals are more suspicious of imposters because their accounts aren't getting banned every weekend like the alt-right. This may change as Twitter evolves into X, under its new leadership, but for now at least, liberal and "SJW" type leftist accounts tend to have more followers, more connections and more shared "respectability" codes to conform to in polite and plausible company. In this sense, unless you want to get banned inside 2 days, an SJW persona is more of a long-term project, and may require some understanding of key tenets such as standpoint theory for example.

Another classic activist troll pose (and a politically neutral one) is the "Researcher", since it is harder to pin a researcher as that "anonymous person with too much knowledge on a topic". This type of persona has been used extensively by Newgon-supported vols.

A word about dishonesty. If you are employing exaggeration, be plausible in your dishonesty by employing hyperbole and sarcasm. This way, you "pitch an invisible middle ground" by making extremism look like common-sense and forcing your readers to concede at least some uncomfortable truths.

Who and what is our target?

The persona should be tailored to your primary target.

Middle or low intelligence targets are bread and butter for a troll, as they are easier to bait and manipulate. These tend to be people with biographies indicating an involvement in sports, gaming, "consumption" of popular culture, or cultural/political topics covered by the corporate media. Remember, people hang out in online bubbles - both conservative and liberal. They do this for group-reinforcement catharsis - simply hearing their own ideas repeated in soothing metronomic fashion. It gives them a sense of certainty that allays the insecurity of living with an average intellect, and also helps them explain away their failings as injustices. Humans are group animals, and each group creates their own culture, in which they are the "good people", and only "their own people's unique perspective" can attest to this. For this reason, you should expect to be heavily down-voted, "ratio'd", etc, and you shouldn't care one bit about this as your aim is to play the underdog, puncture their comfort bubble and draw in non-participant viewers.

When it comes to threads/trends, discriminate, but don't be fussy. You can easily throw out the same or similar message a few times, and see who bites. High profile targets on relevant trends are preferred, as are discussions high up the thread. Try to catch fresh trends, not exhausted conversations, and ride the wave from there. If a thread isn't working, just switch over - disengage and reengage - don't get bogged down with point-by-point rebuttals. If engaging with deboonkers, first mock them and then cut back to the fundamental absurdity of your target's position, using new angles and reference material.

Conventional leftist/moderate wokebait

This tweet, picked up by Jordan Peterson, is a near-perfect example of baiting

This strategy may work as a pinned tweet/new thread, as well as a reply.

• Keep it simple; most people are stupid. If you use fancy language, or terms that most people don't understand, people will continue scrolling when they see your tweet. They won't read it, won't feel anything, and won't retweet it.
• Try to confirm their beliefs in the first two sentences. This is the hook, the bait, that will make them continue reading. Then continue with something outrageous in sentence 3 and 4.

• For example, the captioned tweet starts with "It is incredible how strong MAPs and their allies have become. I see them everywhere now." [Many people believe that pedophiles have a lot of support and are becoming stronger, so this is confirming their beliefs]. It continues: "It is only a matter of time until the sex fascists will be driven out of society and this insane pedophilia hysteria will come to an end." [This, of course, goes against their feelings and triggers them. The word "sex fascist" is also an insult to antis. They will feel like they need to object. So they will quote tweet]. The tweet finishes: "Freedom, at last!" [Again, huge trigger. Because they, of course, don't agree that MAPs should be free].
• The term "Minor Attracted Person" (MAP) is also a trigger for antis, who see it as a neologism intended to soften the severity of an "heinous crime".

Politically conservative personas baiting other conservatives

One avenue is using common alt-right optics and argumentation to point out that conservatives are "blue pilled" on age of consent laws.

Examples of pro-hebephile, age-gap arguments made on 4chan (unrelated to Newgon)

MAP Activists and the Alternative-Right generally have very little in common, other than the kind of knowledge we are positioned to take advantage of. Alt-righters, 4Channers and many besides, have nevertheless been able to use a good grounding in MAP-awareness in a variety of successful trolling campaigns. Let's first look at triggering "Agecuck" 4Channers by pointing out they are behaving like blue-pilled "normies" (see graphics right). This has been a particularly useful strategy for some of us and mirrors the kind of tactics used by Federal Agents to sow division in hostile groups by playing the "authenticity" card. They might do this, for example, by posing individuals as the most "extreme" white-nationalists who diverge from others in their group by supporting Israel. Naturally, this undermines the solidarity of the far-right on that topic, in effect moving them back towards the center while all the time maintaining the illusion of radical nationalist conservatism.

Tagging people is the simplest baiting strategy

In 2022, Jamal Ross used this to great effect by running 2 accounts that conversed with one another.

You can also run one "pro" and one "anti" account, thus driving the right kind of traffic to your content.

Why "Newgon vols" sometimes infiltrated chansites and impersonated conservatives

• The complaints are overblown
• As described, more MAPs and pedo trolls should impersonate conservatives, not less.
• Impersonating conservatives undermines conservative stereotypes of MAPs, undermines liberal inaction on our topic and their usual "hoax" defense.