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Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA [[List of conflicting statements by victimologists|"absurdism"]] ''"once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete"''. Far from a prolific author (he expressed a dislike of reading),<ref name=Burgess /> his occasional coauthor was Jill Haddad.<ref>[https://books.google.com/books/about/What_If_I_Say_No.html?id=sArnPAAACAAJ What If . . . I Say No - Haddad and Martin]</ref>
Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA [[List of conflicting statements by victimologists|"absurdism"]] ''"once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete"''. Far from a prolific author (he expressed a dislike of reading),<ref name=Burgess /> his occasional coauthor was Jill Haddad.<ref>[https://books.google.com/books/about/What_If_I_Say_No.html?id=sArnPAAACAAJ What If . . . I Say No - Haddad and Martin]</ref>


In a hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Lloyd Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a book called ''Where The Young Ones Are'' described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.<ref>[[Patrick Califia]], “The Age of Consent: An Issue and Its Effects on the Gay Movement, Part One,” Advocate, October 16, 1980.</ref><ref name="Hearings" /> To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this manual.
In a hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a $5 pamphlet called ''Where The Young Ones Are'', described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy of this seemingly easy to obtain document in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.<ref>[[Patrick Califia]], “The Age of Consent: An Issue and Its Effects on the Gay Movement, Part One,” Advocate, October 16, 1980.</ref><ref name="Hearings" /> To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this elusive manual.


==History==
==History==

Revision as of 17:21, 3 July 2023

Lloyd Martin later on in life

Lloyd Hartley Martin (Dec. 19, 1942 - May 27, 2021)[1] was an Arkansas-born California Police Detective who was a highly sought-after authority on Child Sexual Abuse during the American pornography panics of the 1980s. Like other moral entrepreneurs such as Judianne Densen-Gerber he went on to face discredit, following outspoken comments made against public institutions such as the Boy Scouts,[1] and what appeared to be attempts to abuse his office and testimony extortion.[2][3] A Salon article later described him as "infamous".[4]

Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA "absurdism" "once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete". Far from a prolific author (he expressed a dislike of reading),[5] his occasional coauthor was Jill Haddad.[6]

In a hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a $5 pamphlet called Where The Young Ones Are, described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy of this seemingly easy to obtain document in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.[7][8] To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this elusive manual.

History

Martin joined the Los Angeles Police Department in 1965. In 1976, he helped establish the department’s – and nation’s – first Sexual Exploitation Unit of the Juvenile Division, the Sexually Exploited Child Unit (SECU).[1][9]

In the late-70s and 80s, he became a "go-to expert" in the field of sexual exploitation of children, being interviewed by 60 Minutes for his work. Martin's uncompromising pursuit of "sexual predators" brought him prominence but also sparked controversy after he publicly criticized several organizations for what he said were inadequate efforts to screen the adults allowed to work with children. After political pressure from these organizations led to him being reassigned within the LAPD, he negotiated a retirement from the department in 1984.[1]

Martin is often recalled for his almost singular and unwavering focus on erotica involving boys - exemplified by the titles in this image. Said to be abrupt in person, his passionate defense of boyhood innocence purportedly emanated from a genuine love of children. A follower of Little League Baseball, Martin was also said to be a lover of animals[1]

Martin and the abuse "pipeline" or "slippery slope" myth

Martin was a firm believer in the now-outdated theory that minors who were (as he put it) "seduced", would go on to commit indecent acts themselves. This is also known as the "abused-abuser" relationship:

Detective Lloyd H. Martin, of the Sexually Exploited Child Unit of the Los Angeles Police Department said "When a child has been coerced or seduced into giving his only true possession - his body - he loses his self respect and his morality. If he doesn't care about himself, how can he care about somebody else? Such a child could be destroyed psychologically and may never be a productive member of our society". Sgt. Martin has also observed that "..the sexually exploited child of today has a good possibility of becoming the hardcore criminal of tomorrow."[10]

This myth was built upon long-standing conspiratorialist fears about the gay "recruitment" of children and teenagers that are reflected today as grooming hysteria. Scott De Orio identifies Martin as an important figure in the laundering of these concerns in the 80s:

In response to the decreasing popularity of “the homosexual” as a demonic figure, law enforcement officials such as the LAPD detective Lloyd Martin refocused their energies on demonizing the “pedophile.” By focusing less on homosexuality per se and more on other, less sympathetic deviant subjects, who remained outside the boundaries of identity politics, conservatives managed to pursue a law-and-order agenda with respect to sex crimes unhindered by resistance from gay and progressive activists (p 40) Martin was a law enforcement entrepreneur who was making a career out of fomenting social concern about child sexual abuse in general and gay pedophiles in particular [...] he had coordinated police crackdowns on alleged “chicken hawks”—adult men with a sexual interest in underage boys—in Los Angeles since the early 1970s. “This particular film,” Martin explained about a video he presented on the 60 Minutes special, “I would say, was produced by a ‘chicken hawk.’ That is, an adult male who likes little boys. And I would guarantee you that the two boys that are depicted in this film have been molested by this male prior to this production.” (p 120/121)[9]

According to gay author, John Mitzel, Martin also used a peculiar and somewhat alarming device to get his points across during a speech at Boston University School of Nursing's "celebratory banquet/wing-ding party" of self-appointed CSA experts in the early 80s. He would, according to Mitzel, repeatedly exclaim "I, Lloyd Martin, am a paedophile and here is how I operate...". Mitzel, taking notes, also described Martin as a "semi-literate" who was "deeply sick and opportunistic in the manner of a self-made promoter".[5]

Quotes

A homicide, once committed, is over," he said in an interview. "But a crime against a child is never over. It has ruined a life.[8]

Los Angeles Police estimate that adults in this city alone exploited over 30,000 children under seventeen in 1976, and photographed many of them in the act.[11]

Describing an LA restaurant frequented by pederasts (which he claimed two days later, hosted a meat rack of boys aged from as young as 6-17):

"We have no problem finding our sex offenders here," Martin said. "But we don't have laws to detain them."[12]

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