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This argument is in effect the reverse of the [[Debate Guide: Liberty-empowerment|liberty empowerment]] theory and is used to describe how paternalist/adultist practises in society will sometimes fulfill their supporters' prophecies - creating a demand for their own solutions.
__NOTOC__Paternalist/adultist practises in society create "dumb" infantilized minors, who in turn must be treated as vulnerables. This argument (in relation to the concept of [[consent]]) is summed up by [http://www.mhamic.org/sources/li1.htm Chin-Keung Li]:


This argument (in relation to the concept of [[consent]]) is summed up by [http://www.mhamic.org/sources/li1.htm Chin-Keung Li] on the MHAMic website:
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Cyclical paternalism works in tandem with the [[Debate Guide: Liberty-empowerment|liberty empowerment]] argument - as they are both essentially different ways of describing the same phenomenon.


==Drug analogy==


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Anti-drugs laws' purported aim is to protect people from intrinsically harmful substances, however it is widely accepted that prohibitions have encouraged drug contamination and poor control of dosing. Within the prohibitionist scheme, drugs education is also incredibly poor, as it is underpinned by the same social-legal misconception of all "drugs" as "bad" (a la Mr. Mackey). No attention is given to identifying the underlying mental imbalances that must exist for a person to become drug dependent. So, because:


: '''a)''' "Drugs" are taboo.
: '''b)''' Young people are rarely informed enough to understand mental imbalances that expose them to a risk of dependency.


Anti-drugs laws (for example), aim to protect people from harmful substances. However, they have made the use of natural drugs deadly through contamination and poor education surrounding the underlying mental imbalances that must exist for a person to become drug dependent. By simply viewing the drugs as "bad" (a la Mr. Mackey) and something to be avoided, without considering the mental imbalances that put them at risk of dependency, young people are more likely to turn to drugs when they are most depressed and vulnerable. A dependency relationship ensues in later youth or adulthood.
Young people are then more likely to turn to drugs when they are most depressed and vulnerable. A dependency relationship ensues in later youth or adulthood.


To resolve the drug issue, young people must be given a full understanding of their minds, and time to explore their limits - including limited drug use (if sought) - only while in a secure mental state and environment. Similarly, an exploration body-pleasure should be encouraged at an early age, and this should be on the young person's terms, with no social guilt or stigma.
One might conclude that younger people should be allowed to experiment with drug-highs in a supportive and emotionally stable environment. Similarly, guilt-free exploration of body-pleasure (a far less mind-altering event) should be encouraged from an early age, assuming it is on the young person's terms.


==Adultism==
==Adultism==


It may be important to consider that the idea of "sexual maturity" is an ''adultist'' concept, imposed on the worlds of minors. What constitutes sexual maturity is defined by the adults who have "attained" it, but critically, those with the power to determine what it is. This elitism can be seen among people like [[Prostasia]]'s Meagan Ingerman<ref>https://prostasia.org/blog/ageplay-is-for-adults/</ref>, who professes an interest in "kink and ageplay". She is a typical adultist kink snob/gatekeeper in that she constructs a highly convoluted "adults only" world of subjective deviance for herself, and then withholds virtually every other kind of shared sexual pleasure from minors.  
The idea of "sexual maturity" (in social terms, at least) is an ''adultist'' concept, imposed on the worlds of minors.  
 
What constitutes sexual maturity is defined by the very adults who profess it, and have the power to determine what it actually means. This kind of elitism can be seen in the kink-snobbery of people like [[Prostasia]]'s Meagan Ingerman.<ref>https://prostasia.org/blog/ageplay-is-for-adults/</ref> Professing a personal interest in "kink and ageplay", she constructs a highly convoluted "adults only" world of deviance for herself and other adults. On the basis of this subjective outlook, she then bars minors from seeking sexual pleasure of any kind - assuming the role of gatekeeper.  


The unsuitability of an over-complicated form of "adult sexuality" for "young minds" has been seen as a [[self-fulfilling prophecy]].
The unsuitability of an over-complicated form of "adult sexuality" for "young minds" has been seen as a [[self-fulfilling prophecy]].

Revision as of 15:47, 23 October 2021

Paternalist/adultist practises in society create "dumb" infantilized minors, who in turn must be treated as vulnerables. This argument (in relation to the concept of consent) is summed up by Chin-Keung Li:

Cyclical paternalism works in tandem with the liberty empowerment argument - as they are both essentially different ways of describing the same phenomenon.

Drug analogy

Anti-drugs laws' purported aim is to protect people from intrinsically harmful substances, however it is widely accepted that prohibitions have encouraged drug contamination and poor control of dosing. Within the prohibitionist scheme, drugs education is also incredibly poor, as it is underpinned by the same social-legal misconception of all "drugs" as "bad" (a la Mr. Mackey). No attention is given to identifying the underlying mental imbalances that must exist for a person to become drug dependent. So, because:

a) "Drugs" are taboo.
b) Young people are rarely informed enough to understand mental imbalances that expose them to a risk of dependency.

Young people are then more likely to turn to drugs when they are most depressed and vulnerable. A dependency relationship ensues in later youth or adulthood.

One might conclude that younger people should be allowed to experiment with drug-highs in a supportive and emotionally stable environment. Similarly, guilt-free exploration of body-pleasure (a far less mind-altering event) should be encouraged from an early age, assuming it is on the young person's terms.

Adultism

The idea of "sexual maturity" (in social terms, at least) is an adultist concept, imposed on the worlds of minors.

What constitutes sexual maturity is defined by the very adults who profess it, and have the power to determine what it actually means. This kind of elitism can be seen in the kink-snobbery of people like Prostasia's Meagan Ingerman.[1] Professing a personal interest in "kink and ageplay", she constructs a highly convoluted "adults only" world of deviance for herself and other adults. On the basis of this subjective outlook, she then bars minors from seeking sexual pleasure of any kind - assuming the role of gatekeeper.

The unsuitability of an over-complicated form of "adult sexuality" for "young minds" has been seen as a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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