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This imposition of social rules has become particularly
Imposition of [[Wikipedia:Antisexualism|antisexual]] values upon youth has only been the norm for the last couple of centuries in Western culture. In other cultures - so-called ‘primitive societies’ (e.g. the tribes of Papa New Guinea, Melanesia, and Aboriginal Australia), and also in ‘advanced’ societies (e.g. Ancient Greece and feudal [[Pederasty in Japanese culture|Japan]]) - and even in the West up until the 17th century - physically intimate behavior was never so rigidly labelled. What today would be termed ’sexual activity’ frequently fulfilled other purposes and functions. Phallic worship existed in almost every pre-Christian society, and served as a symbolic ritual of the vitality, strength, and essence of humankind. This frequently translated into [[Sexual rites of passage|initiation rites]], whereby boys were ‘inseminated’ - in some cases from the age of 8, either anally or orally, with the sperm of older boys and men.
intransigent only in the last couple of centuries in Western
culture. In other cultures - so-called ‘primitive societies’ (e.g.
the tribes of Papa New Guinea, Melanesia, and Aboriginal
Australia), and also in ‘advanced’ societies (e.g. Ancient Greece
and feudal Japan) - and even in the West up until the 17th century -
physically intimate behaviour was never so rigidly labelled. What
today would be termed ’sexual activity’ frequently fulfilled other
purposes and functions. Phallic worship existed in almost every pre-
Christian society, and served as a symbolic ritual of the vitality,
strength, and essence of humankind. This frequently translated into
initiation rites, whereby boys were ‘inseminated’ - in some cases
from the age of 8, either anally or orally, with the sperm of older
boys and men.


Such acts were not regarded as ’sexual’ as contemporary society
Such acts were not regarded as ’sexual’ as contemporary society would deem it - and were not regarded as primarily erotic or sensual acts - but were an essential aspect of transferring wisdom and honor to the young boys. To such an extent ’sex’ was an important aspect of socialization; a way of linking one generation to the next - a linkage that present day society sorely lacks. Such socialization was not merely confined to the human species, but also is widespread throughout our relatives in the animal kingdom, whereby pseudo-mating acts between older males and younger males serve as a crucial aspect in promoting cohesion amongst the group.
would deem it - and were not regarded as primarily erotic or
 
sensual acts - but were an essential aspect of transferring wisdom
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and honour to the young boys. To such an extent ’sex’ was an
 
important aspect of socialization; a way of linking one generation
The EGL on '''Broader Perspectives''' has some relevant information. Just right click/save and reproduce by uploading in short-form media to bypass character limits.
to the next - a linkage that present day society sorely lacks. Such
 
socialization was not merely confined to the human species, but
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also is widespread throughout our relatives in the animal kingdom,
 
whereby pseudo-mating acts between older males and younger males
==References==
serve as a crucial aspect in promoting cohesion amongst the group.


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Latest revision as of 00:37, 12 April 2024

For research, see Nonwestern Intergenerational Relationships, Intergenerational Relationships in History.

Imposition of antisexual values upon youth has only been the norm for the last couple of centuries in Western culture. In other cultures - so-called ‘primitive societies’ (e.g. the tribes of Papa New Guinea, Melanesia, and Aboriginal Australia), and also in ‘advanced’ societies (e.g. Ancient Greece and feudal Japan) - and even in the West up until the 17th century - physically intimate behavior was never so rigidly labelled. What today would be termed ’sexual activity’ frequently fulfilled other purposes and functions. Phallic worship existed in almost every pre-Christian society, and served as a symbolic ritual of the vitality, strength, and essence of humankind. This frequently translated into initiation rites, whereby boys were ‘inseminated’ - in some cases from the age of 8, either anally or orally, with the sperm of older boys and men.

Such acts were not regarded as ’sexual’ as contemporary society would deem it - and were not regarded as primarily erotic or sensual acts - but were an essential aspect of transferring wisdom and honor to the young boys. To such an extent ’sex’ was an important aspect of socialization; a way of linking one generation to the next - a linkage that present day society sorely lacks. Such socialization was not merely confined to the human species, but also is widespread throughout our relatives in the animal kingdom, whereby pseudo-mating acts between older males and younger males serve as a crucial aspect in promoting cohesion amongst the group.

Excerpt Graphic Library

The EGL on Broader Perspectives has some relevant information. Just right click/save and reproduce by uploading in short-form media to bypass character limits.

  • Janssen on Traditional Hawaii

    Janssen on Traditional Hawaii

  • Janssen (notes and sources) on Hippie Communes

    Janssen (notes and sources) on Hippie Communes

  • Berger on Hippie Communes

    Berger on Hippie Communes

  • More from Berger on communes

    More from Berger on communes

  • Don't Sleep, There Are Snakes: Life and Language in the Amazonian Jungle, by Daniel Everett.

    Don't Sleep, There Are Snakes: Life and Language in the Amazonian Jungle, by Daniel Everett.

  • Jose Nieto (2004): Children and adolescents as sexual beings: cross-cultural perspectives (chilling effect on Anthropology)

    Jose Nieto (2004): Children and adolescents as sexual beings: cross-cultural perspectives (chilling effect on Anthropology)

  • Some interesting historical perspectives: US and UK

    Some interesting historical perspectives: US and UK

  • Mark Smith, Ros Burnett on a controversial British Special Girls School

    Mark Smith, Ros Burnett on a controversial British Special Girls School

  • Wikipedia on Greek Pederasty Institution

    Wikipedia on Greek Pederasty Institution

  • Sex Atlas on cathartic Adult-Child sex play

    Sex Atlas on cathartic Adult-Child sex play

  • Data on first marriage in prewestern societies (from the Binford Dataset)

    Data on first marriage in prewestern societies (from the Binford Dataset)

  • RV Curve

    RV Curve

  • Ramey's SIECUS Report - Incest and intrinsic harm

    Ramey's SIECUS Report - Incest and intrinsic harm

  • Inciardi on child prostitutes

    Inciardi on child prostitutes

  • Mirkin on CP Industry

    Mirkin on CP Industry

  • Levine on CP Industry

    Levine on CP Industry

  • Richard Green: Interactions seen as beneficial

    Richard Green: Interactions seen as beneficial

  • Religious Laws/Norms - Judaeo Christian

    Religious Laws/Norms - Judaeo Christian

  • Rind on historical pederasty throughout the world[1]

    Rind on historical pederasty throughout the world[1]

  • Rind continued

    Rind continued

  • Rind on historical pederasty (cont'd)

    Rind on historical pederasty (cont'd)

  • Rind on historical pederasty (cont'd)

    Rind on historical pederasty (cont'd)

  • Rind on historical pederasty (cont'd)

    Rind on historical pederasty (cont'd)

  • Rind on historical pederasty (cont'd)

    Rind on historical pederasty (cont'd)

  • Rind on historical pederasty (cont'd)

    Rind on historical pederasty (cont'd)

  • Rind on historical pederasty (cont'd)

    Rind on historical pederasty (cont'd)

  • Rind combined in 1 image

    Rind combined in 1 image

  • Various excerpts on the Marquesas Islands

    Various excerpts on the Marquesas Islands

  • More from Suggs on the Marquesas Islands

    More from Suggs on the Marquesas Islands

  • Ford and Beach on cross-species/cultural data

    Ford and Beach on cross-species/cultural data

  • Rind's summary on pederasty in animals[1]

    Rind's summary on pederasty in animals[1]

  • One example from Bagemihl: Dolphins

    One example from Bagemihl: Dolphins

  • Macaque age-gap sex play

    Macaque age-gap sex play

  • Examples from Pedophilia: Biosocial Dimensions (Jay R. Feierman, ed.). New York: Springer-Verlag Publishers

    Examples from Pedophilia: Biosocial Dimensions (Jay R. Feierman, ed.). New York: Springer-Verlag Publishers

  • Further from the above

    Further from the above

  • Monkeys - direct screencap

    Monkeys - direct screencap

  • Bonobo apes

    Bonobo apes

References

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 Bruce Rind - Pederasty: An Integration of Empirical, Historical, Sociological, Cross-Cultural, Cross-Species, and Evolutionary Evidence and Perspectives in eds Hubbard and Verstraete
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