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*'''[http://anu.nfshost.com/?p=92 Steve Diamond]'''
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*:"Very sexual as a child - saw lots of sexual interaction between boys "I have naturally craved sex...sexual touch, through all stages of my conscious life. I do not remember any phase during my childhood, when I was without sexual attraction and arousal. It was very natural, and spontaneous. I never disliked it, though I learned to hide it from others. [...] But I have, honestly, known several children (when I was a boy), who were having sex...semi-regular, and prior to puberty. Nobody complained...Everybody liked it...Everybody made the choice to be there and do that."
*'''[http://anu.nfshost.com/?p=92 Steve Diamond on ATC blog (defunct)]'''
*'''[http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1669967,00.html Sexual prepubesence in isolated Cumbria, UK]'''
*:"I have naturally craved sex...sexual touch, through all stages of my conscious life. I do not remember any phase during my childhood, when I was without sexual attraction and arousal. It was very natural, and spontaneous. I never disliked it, though I learned to hide it from others. [...] But I have, honestly, known several children (when I was a boy), who were having sex...semi-regular, and prior to puberty. Nobody complained...Everybody liked it...Everybody made the choice to be there and do that."
 
*'''Nine-year-old girl, quoted in: Martin, Lorna and Card, Nell. "[http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1669967,00.html The secret love life of Laura-Anne, aged 9¾]", ''The Guardian'', December 18 2005.'''
*:"Laura-Anne Hanrahan [nine years old] is sitting on her doorstep, playing with a pumpkin as she describes how she felt when her boyfriend kissed her. 'Tingly,' she says, dreamily. 'He used to come over and cuddle me and put his hands up my top. It used to feel cosy. I feel desperate to go up to him and say "Ben, why don't we kiss any more". It hurts so much that we don't kiss that I want to rip my heart out and throw it away.'"
*:"Laura-Anne Hanrahan [nine years old] is sitting on her doorstep, playing with a pumpkin as she describes how she felt when her boyfriend kissed her. 'Tingly,' she says, dreamily. 'He used to come over and cuddle me and put his hands up my top. It used to feel cosy. I feel desperate to go up to him and say "Ben, why don't we kiss any more". It hurts so much that we don't kiss that I want to rip my heart out and throw it away.'"
*'''[http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1589948,00.html Prominent British men on fagging in their public schools]'''
*'''[http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1589948,00.html Prominent British men on fagging in their public schools]'''
*:Article by the Guardian
*:Article by the Guardian about the culture of homosexuality and pederasty in boys' boarding schools.
*'''[http://www.cinemablend.com/celebrity/Angelina-Jolie-Was-A-Kindergarten-Sex-Kitten-3855.html Angelina Jolie]'''
 
*:"I was a member of a group called the Kissy Girls. I was very sexual in kindergarten. "I created a game where I would kiss the boys and give them cooties (children's fictional disease). Then we would make out and we would take our clothes off."
*'''[http://www.cinemablend.com/celebrity/Angelina-Jolie-Was-A-Kindergarten-Sex-Kitten-3855.html Angelina Jolie] (actress), quoted in: "Angelina Jolie Was A Kindergarten Sex Kitten", ''World Entertainment News Network'', April 18 2007.'''
*'''Anon boy, 14'''
*:"I was a member of a group called the Kissy Girls. I was very sexual in kindergarten. "I created a game where I would kiss the boys and give them cooties (children's fictional disease). Then we would make out and we would take our clothes off."  
 
*'''Anonymous boy, 14'''
*:"My brother (three years older) initiated some 'exploration' (I was around 10 years old at the time) - showing our penises, measuring them, eventually leading to me licking his penis. This eventually led to frequent mutual masturbation, oral sex, and an attempt at anal sex, with me on bottom (we used shampoo for lube - ouch). There was a period where my brother lost interest in such activities, but I continued craving sex with him. I eventually got more - he would let me suck him off, and we eventually did anal once, with me on top this time. After a few minutes he wasn't interested anymore and I finished him off by mouth. I was 14 at the time. The frequency of our sexual encounters dropped off after that, and it has been several months since anything happened (I still crave cock though)."
*:"My brother (three years older) initiated some 'exploration' (I was around 10 years old at the time) - showing our penises, measuring them, eventually leading to me licking his penis. This eventually led to frequent mutual masturbation, oral sex, and an attempt at anal sex, with me on bottom (we used shampoo for lube - ouch). There was a period where my brother lost interest in such activities, but I continued craving sex with him. I eventually got more - he would let me suck him off, and we eventually did anal once, with me on top this time. After a few minutes he wasn't interested anymore and I finished him off by mouth. I was 14 at the time. The frequency of our sexual encounters dropped off after that, and it has been several months since anything happened (I still crave cock though)."


*'''[http://annabelleigh.net/messages/441610.htm AlbertRoss (Girl Chat)]'''
*'''[http://annabelleigh.net/messages/441610.htm AlbertRoss on GirlChat], May 21 2008'''
*:Although his real name is probably not known, he has previously outed himself on video... "my older male friend was about four or five years ahead of me, almost fourteen to my nine, at the time we met. two of the best years of my life, in so many ways, and not just because he had a swimming pool in his front yard, nor because his dad was well off, and took us all out to dinner a lot. i learned most of what i know about sex from him. normal heterosexual sex, that is - his interest was in me, mine was about girls, he had the details i wanted, and i hadn't yet been tainted by homophobia. what they call a win/win situation, i guess. i discovered the phobia at eleven, told him i couldn't see him any more, and that was it. took me decades to get over the sense of having done something terribly wrong, and quite a few more to restore my memories to what i now remember - that overwhelming sense of excitement and wonder. in short - the only harm i experienced was that imposed on me by outside prejudices. i'm exclusively hetero, and always have been, and today i feel diminished by that.."
*:Although his real name is probably not known, he has previously outed himself on video. "my older male friend was about four or five years ahead of me, almost fourteen to my nine, at the time we met. two of the best years of my life, in so many ways, and not just because he had a swimming pool in his front yard, nor because his dad was well off, and took us all out to dinner a lot. i learned most of what i know about sex from him. normal heterosexual sex, that is - his interest was in me, mine was about girls, he had the details i wanted, and i hadn't yet been tainted by homophobia. what they call a win/win situation, i guess. i discovered the phobia at eleven, told him i couldn't see him any more, and that was it. took me decades to get over the sense of having done something terribly wrong, and quite a few more to restore my memories to what i now remember - that overwhelming sense of excitement and wonder. in short - the only harm i experienced was that imposed on me by outside prejudices. i'm exclusively hetero, and always have been, and today i feel diminished by that.."
 
*'''[http://web.archive.org/web/20090303151556/http://www.salon.com/feb97/molested3970228.html Mother of two boys], from: "Molested: A mother discovers that the legal system's nightmarish 'cure' for child sexual abuse can be worse than the disease", ''Salon'', February 28 1997.'''
*:As well as being a very reliable and articulate source for the younger brother's feelings about an affectionate, family sex relationship, there are many points raised about the persecution of young people in a sex-negative welfare state. "Between my two sons, there was kissing, there was touching, there was oral contact ("sodomy"). There was a lot of looking. There was no penetration, no force, no threats. They are several years apart in age and the contacts occurred over several weeks. My youngest son confessed in tears that he'd enjoyed it, and was very sorry he'd gotten his brother in so much trouble." (Parts [http://web.archive.org/web/20090303112703/http://www.salon.com/feb97/molested970228.html 1], [http://web.archive.org/web/20090303150342/http://www.salon.com/feb97/molested2970228.html 2] and [http://web.archive.org/web/20090303151556/http://www.salon.com/feb97/molested3970228.html 3] | [http://www.helping-people.info/Treatment/mother.htm Combined] )
 
*'''Haroian, Loretta (2000). "[http://www.ejhs.org/volume3/Haroian/body.htm Child Sexual Development]", ''Electronic Journal of Human Sexuality'', Volume 3.'''
*:"Three-year old D was a highly sexed boy who had been involved in sex play with age mates and an older child. He asked his therapist if she wanted to put her mouth on his “dinky.” When she replied in the negative, he pleaded “you'll like it,” “I'll pay you money,” “I'll be your best friend.” When asked if he liked to “play dinky,” he frowned menacingly, clenched his fists and aggressively replied, “yes, I like it, and I'm not going to stop!”"
 
*'''"[http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/12/08/Boys_family_fights_sex_charges/UPI-54821228781406/ Boy's family fights sex charges]", ''United Press Internationa'', December 8 2008.'''
*:"Several teenage girls in Mequon, Wis., say they object to a classmate being criminally prosecuted for allegedly touching them inappropriately. The girls, in court affidavits, said they did not feel degraded by the boy, now 14, and don't want to see him prosecuted for five counts of fourth-degree sexual assault, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported Monday. [...] Prosecutors allege the boy several times in 2007 and in June 2008, when he was 13, grabbed the girls' buttocks or their breasts, licked a girl's neck and tickled a girl in the stomach."
 
*'''[http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/oct/04/chris-brown-rihanna-interview-x Chris Brown], quoted in: Aitkenhead, Decca. "Chris Brown: 'It was the biggest wake-up call'", ''The Guardian'', October 4 2013.'''
*:He lost his virginity when he was eight years old, to a local girl who was 14 or 15. Seriously? "Yeah, really. Uh-huh." He grins and chuckles. "It's different in the country." Brown grew up with a great gang of boy cousins, and they watched so much porn that he was raring to go. "By that point, we were already kind of like hot to trot, you know what I'm saying? Like, girls, we weren't afraid to talk to them; I wasn't afraid. So, at eight, being able to do it, it kind of preps you for the long run, so you can be a beast at it. You can be the best at it."
 
*'''Various interviewees, quoted in: Martinson, Floyd (1973). ''[http://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/martinson/infant/InfantAndChildSexuality.html Infant and Child Sexuality: A Sociological Perspective]''.'''
 
:*"My neighborhood environment has always been quite permissive which enabled me (a boy) the time and freedom to become the finest five year old doctor in my neighborhood. I clearly remember associating my penile erections with examination of the next door girl's anatomy."
 
:*"I (a girl) encountered a sexual experience that was confusing at kindergarten age.... Some afternoons we would meet and lock ourselves in a bedroom and take our pants off. We took turns lying on the bed and put pennies, marbles, etc. between our labia. The other two liked to pretend they were boys and used a pencil for a penis. As the ritual became old hat, it passed out of existence. I enjoyed the sexual manipulation, for it was stimulating."
 
:*"The girl and I were age six. I suggested playing doctor. We took off our clothes and then she lay down on her stomach so I could give her a "shot." [...] She messed around a little bit until I began to get what was for me my first memorable erection. [...] She started to touch it, pulled back quickly (still giggling), then touched it and finally put her hand on it. At that time I wasn't exactly prepared for the sensations I received so I suggested that maybe she shouldn't do that any more. I seem to remember a strange feeling when looking at her genitals. I couldn't figure out what they were for but while looking, I felt a pleasurable sensation in my own genitals, and I'm sure that the thought of placing mine near hers passed through my mind but I dismissed it for lack of time (her mother would be coming soon)."


*'''[http://www.salon.com/feb97/molested3970228.html Anonymous Mother of two Boys]'''
:*"When I [a girl] was about seven years old, my eleven year old neighbor girl friend and I would get together and play games which involved fondling and exploring each other's body.... A game that we played was referred to as "upper" and "lower" and this would include choosing one of the words and the other person would stimulate that portion of the body for about 10-15 minutes. This we did anywhere since it did not involve taking off clothes, just placing the hand inside the clothing. By sexual contacts I had a release to strange feelings inside me and got much physical satisfaction when arms were holding me."
*:As well as being a very reliable and articulate source for the younger brother's feelings about an affectionate, family sex relationship, there are many points raised about the persecution of young people in a sex-negative welfare state. "Between my two sons, there was kissing, there was touching, there was oral contact ("sodomy"). There was a lot of looking. There was no penetration, no force, no threats. They are several years apart in age and the contacts occurred over several weeks. My youngest son confessed in tears that he'd enjoyed it, and was very sorry he'd gotten his brother in so much trouble."


*'''[http://www.ejhs.org/volume3/Haroian/body.htm CHILD SEXUAL DEVELOPMENT]'''
:*"I (age 12) was invited to an all boy slumber party at one of my friend's homes.... I laid down next to Jim, and we talked for a long time and I remember scratching his back and then I remember him asking if I would itch his "cock." I guess it was more curiosity at his big organ than anything that led me to comply and I did. [...] Anyway, I was stimulating him and he all of a sudden insisted that I stop. I didn't know why at the time, but I did what he said. He then suggested that he return the favor. Well, he began to manually stimulate me, and the sensation was so great at orgasm I honestly remember that I made him stop for a second. Then I asked him to start again and the sensation came back and I made him stop again. I was too young to ejaculate anything, but it sure felt good. We repeated the cycle at least ten times before we quit."
*:In an article by Loretta Haroian, Ph.D. "Three-year old D was a highly sexed boy who had been involved in sex play with age mates and an older child. He asked his therapist if she wanted to put her mouth on his “dinky.” When she replied in the negative, he pleaded “you'll like it,” “I'll pay you money,” “I'll be your best friend.” When asked if he liked to “play dinky,he frowned menacingly, clenched his fists and aggressively replied, “yes, I like it, and I'm not going to stop!”"


*'''[http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/12/08/Boys_family_fights_sex_charges/UPI-54821228781406/ Boy's family fights sex charges]'''
:*My second homosexual experience was one with my older cousin. I think I was in about fifth grade when this happened, and he must have been in about eighth grade of junior high school. The contact involved lying down on the couch and unzipping each other's pants and fondling, caressing, and masturbating each other's genitals. I remember he felt a special sensation when I would reach way around his scrotum and fondle his testes. We would take turns stimulating each other and then we would fondle each other simultaneously. I also received great pleasure from this homosexual contact."
*:"MEQUON, Wis., Dec. 8 (UPI) -- Several teenage girls in Mequon, Wis., say they object to a classmate being criminally prosecuted for allegedly touching them inappropriately. The girls, in court affidavits, said they did not feel degraded by the boy, now 14, and don't want to see him prosecuted for five counts of fourth-degree sexual assault, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported Monday. [...] Prosecutors allege the boy several times in 2007 and in June 2008, when he was 13, grabbed the girls' buttocks or their breasts, licked a girl's neck and tickled a girl in the stomach."


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  • Steve Diamond on ATC blog (defunct)
    "I have naturally craved sex...sexual touch, through all stages of my conscious life. I do not remember any phase during my childhood, when I was without sexual attraction and arousal. It was very natural, and spontaneous. I never disliked it, though I learned to hide it from others. [...] But I have, honestly, known several children (when I was a boy), who were having sex...semi-regular, and prior to puberty. Nobody complained...Everybody liked it...Everybody made the choice to be there and do that."
  • Nine-year-old girl, quoted in: Martin, Lorna and Card, Nell. "The secret love life of Laura-Anne, aged 9¾", The Guardian, December 18 2005.
    "Laura-Anne Hanrahan [nine years old] is sitting on her doorstep, playing with a pumpkin as she describes how she felt when her boyfriend kissed her. 'Tingly,' she says, dreamily. 'He used to come over and cuddle me and put his hands up my top. It used to feel cosy. I feel desperate to go up to him and say "Ben, why don't we kiss any more". It hurts so much that we don't kiss that I want to rip my heart out and throw it away.'"
  • Angelina Jolie (actress), quoted in: "Angelina Jolie Was A Kindergarten Sex Kitten", World Entertainment News Network, April 18 2007.
    "I was a member of a group called the Kissy Girls. I was very sexual in kindergarten. "I created a game where I would kiss the boys and give them cooties (children's fictional disease). Then we would make out and we would take our clothes off."
  • Anonymous boy, 14
    "My brother (three years older) initiated some 'exploration' (I was around 10 years old at the time) - showing our penises, measuring them, eventually leading to me licking his penis. This eventually led to frequent mutual masturbation, oral sex, and an attempt at anal sex, with me on bottom (we used shampoo for lube - ouch). There was a period where my brother lost interest in such activities, but I continued craving sex with him. I eventually got more - he would let me suck him off, and we eventually did anal once, with me on top this time. After a few minutes he wasn't interested anymore and I finished him off by mouth. I was 14 at the time. The frequency of our sexual encounters dropped off after that, and it has been several months since anything happened (I still crave cock though)."
  • AlbertRoss on GirlChat, May 21 2008
    Although his real name is probably not known, he has previously outed himself on video. "my older male friend was about four or five years ahead of me, almost fourteen to my nine, at the time we met. two of the best years of my life, in so many ways, and not just because he had a swimming pool in his front yard, nor because his dad was well off, and took us all out to dinner a lot. i learned most of what i know about sex from him. normal heterosexual sex, that is - his interest was in me, mine was about girls, he had the details i wanted, and i hadn't yet been tainted by homophobia. what they call a win/win situation, i guess. i discovered the phobia at eleven, told him i couldn't see him any more, and that was it. took me decades to get over the sense of having done something terribly wrong, and quite a few more to restore my memories to what i now remember - that overwhelming sense of excitement and wonder. in short - the only harm i experienced was that imposed on me by outside prejudices. i'm exclusively hetero, and always have been, and today i feel diminished by that.."
  • Mother of two boys, from: "Molested: A mother discovers that the legal system's nightmarish 'cure' for child sexual abuse can be worse than the disease", Salon, February 28 1997.
    As well as being a very reliable and articulate source for the younger brother's feelings about an affectionate, family sex relationship, there are many points raised about the persecution of young people in a sex-negative welfare state. "Between my two sons, there was kissing, there was touching, there was oral contact ("sodomy"). There was a lot of looking. There was no penetration, no force, no threats. They are several years apart in age and the contacts occurred over several weeks. My youngest son confessed in tears that he'd enjoyed it, and was very sorry he'd gotten his brother in so much trouble." (Parts 1, 2 and 3 | Combined )
  • Haroian, Loretta (2000). "Child Sexual Development", Electronic Journal of Human Sexuality, Volume 3.
    "Three-year old D was a highly sexed boy who had been involved in sex play with age mates and an older child. He asked his therapist if she wanted to put her mouth on his “dinky.” When she replied in the negative, he pleaded “you'll like it,” “I'll pay you money,” “I'll be your best friend.” When asked if he liked to “play dinky,” he frowned menacingly, clenched his fists and aggressively replied, “yes, I like it, and I'm not going to stop!”"
  • "Boy's family fights sex charges", United Press Internationa, December 8 2008.
    "Several teenage girls in Mequon, Wis., say they object to a classmate being criminally prosecuted for allegedly touching them inappropriately. The girls, in court affidavits, said they did not feel degraded by the boy, now 14, and don't want to see him prosecuted for five counts of fourth-degree sexual assault, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported Monday. [...] Prosecutors allege the boy several times in 2007 and in June 2008, when he was 13, grabbed the girls' buttocks or their breasts, licked a girl's neck and tickled a girl in the stomach."
  • Chris Brown, quoted in: Aitkenhead, Decca. "Chris Brown: 'It was the biggest wake-up call'", The Guardian, October 4 2013.
    He lost his virginity when he was eight years old, to a local girl who was 14 or 15. Seriously? "Yeah, really. Uh-huh." He grins and chuckles. "It's different in the country." Brown grew up with a great gang of boy cousins, and they watched so much porn that he was raring to go. "By that point, we were already kind of like hot to trot, you know what I'm saying? Like, girls, we weren't afraid to talk to them; I wasn't afraid. So, at eight, being able to do it, it kind of preps you for the long run, so you can be a beast at it. You can be the best at it."
  • "My neighborhood environment has always been quite permissive which enabled me (a boy) the time and freedom to become the finest five year old doctor in my neighborhood. I clearly remember associating my penile erections with examination of the next door girl's anatomy."
  • "I (a girl) encountered a sexual experience that was confusing at kindergarten age.... Some afternoons we would meet and lock ourselves in a bedroom and take our pants off. We took turns lying on the bed and put pennies, marbles, etc. between our labia. The other two liked to pretend they were boys and used a pencil for a penis. As the ritual became old hat, it passed out of existence. I enjoyed the sexual manipulation, for it was stimulating."
  • "The girl and I were age six. I suggested playing doctor. We took off our clothes and then she lay down on her stomach so I could give her a "shot." [...] She messed around a little bit until I began to get what was for me my first memorable erection. [...] She started to touch it, pulled back quickly (still giggling), then touched it and finally put her hand on it. At that time I wasn't exactly prepared for the sensations I received so I suggested that maybe she shouldn't do that any more. I seem to remember a strange feeling when looking at her genitals. I couldn't figure out what they were for but while looking, I felt a pleasurable sensation in my own genitals, and I'm sure that the thought of placing mine near hers passed through my mind but I dismissed it for lack of time (her mother would be coming soon)."
  • "When I [a girl] was about seven years old, my eleven year old neighbor girl friend and I would get together and play games which involved fondling and exploring each other's body.... A game that we played was referred to as "upper" and "lower" and this would include choosing one of the words and the other person would stimulate that portion of the body for about 10-15 minutes. This we did anywhere since it did not involve taking off clothes, just placing the hand inside the clothing. By sexual contacts I had a release to strange feelings inside me and got much physical satisfaction when arms were holding me."
  • "I (age 12) was invited to an all boy slumber party at one of my friend's homes.... I laid down next to Jim, and we talked for a long time and I remember scratching his back and then I remember him asking if I would itch his "cock." I guess it was more curiosity at his big organ than anything that led me to comply and I did. [...] Anyway, I was stimulating him and he all of a sudden insisted that I stop. I didn't know why at the time, but I did what he said. He then suggested that he return the favor. Well, he began to manually stimulate me, and the sensation was so great at orgasm I honestly remember that I made him stop for a second. Then I asked him to start again and the sensation came back and I made him stop again. I was too young to ejaculate anything, but it sure felt good. We repeated the cycle at least ten times before we quit."
  • My second homosexual experience was one with my older cousin. I think I was in about fifth grade when this happened, and he must have been in about eighth grade of junior high school. The contact involved lying down on the couch and unzipping each other's pants and fondling, caressing, and masturbating each other's genitals. I remember he felt a special sensation when I would reach way around his scrotum and fondle his testes. We would take turns stimulating each other and then we would fondle each other simultaneously. I also received great pleasure from this homosexual contact."