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This article lists some selected quotes which show the extreme hatred faced by [[Minor Attracted People|MAPs]], particularly [[pedophiles]]. You might be familiar with pedophile-in-woodchipper type memes, but here, we try to go a bit beyond that and fully document the pathology and idiocy of many of these individuals.
This article lists some selected quotes which show the extreme hatred faced by [[Minor Attracted People|MAPs]], particularly [[pedophiles]]. You might be familiar with pedophile-in-woodchipper type memes, Pedocillin prescriptions and "BRING BACK THE PEAR!", but here, we try to go a bit beyond that and fully document the pathology and idiocy of many of these individuals.


==Select quotes==
==Select quotes (mainly mid-00s violent impulses)==


*'''[[Xavier von Erck]]''', when questioned about his anti-pedophile organisation's role in child protection:
*'''[[Phillip John Eide|Xavier von Erck]]''', when questioned about his anti-pedophile organisation's role in child protection:
::"''No, it’s because pedophiles are disgusting people. Like you. That’s why we go after them. Protecting kids is just a side benefit. My goal is not to protect minors. It's to go after pedophiles.''"<ref>[http://anu.nfshost.com/miscellaneous/xavier-von-erck IM Xavier VE]</ref>
::"''No, it’s because pedophiles are disgusting people. Like you. That’s why we go after them. Protecting kids is just a side benefit. My goal is not to protect minors. It's to go after pedophiles.''"<ref>[http://anu.nfshost.com/miscellaneous/xavier-von-erck IM Xavier VE]</ref>


*'''Garrett Osbon - Prison Guard, Chillicothe Correctional Institution - Ohio''', on his treatment of an offender convicted of photographing his partner (2 years junior):
*'''Garrett Osbon (2021) - Prison Guard, Chillicothe Correctional Institution - Ohio''', on his treatment of an offender convicted of photographing his partner (2 years junior):
::"''It feels good to know that I played a small part in paralyzing a cho, LMAO.''"<ref>[https://toofab.com/2021/11/03/ohio-to-pay-17-5m-to-convicted-child-sex-offender-after-prison-guards-boasted-about-paralyzing-him/ Toofab.com - Offender paralyzed]</ref>
::"''It feels good to know that I played a small part in paralyzing a cho, LMAO.''"<ref>[https://toofab.com/2021/11/03/ohio-to-pay-17-5m-to-convicted-child-sex-offender-after-prison-guards-boasted-about-paralyzing-him/ Toofab.com - Offender paralyzed]</ref>


*'''Marina H (Stitches77) - Vigilante for [[Absolute Zero]]''', commenting on the online MAPs she pursues:
*'''Marina H (Stitches77) - Vigilante for [[Absolute Zero]]''', commenting on the online MAPs she pursues:
::"''I'm not sympathetic at all. In fact, the proudest day of my life will be when one of them kills himself and leaves a note saying "I can't take it anymore. Stitches drove me to it"''"<ref>[http://absolutezerounited.blogspot.com/2007/06/its-working.html It's working! - AZU]</ref>
::"''I'm not sympathetic at all. In fact, the proudest day of my life will be when one of them kills himself and leaves a note saying "I can't take it anymore. Stitches drove me to it"''"<ref>[http://absolutezerounited.blogspot.com/2007/06/its-working.html It's working! - AZU]</ref>
*'''Graymin (2022)''':
::"''The fourth amendment protects us from 'cruel and unusual punishment'. There has to be a legal argument that says nothing is more 'cruel and unusual' than what pedophiles do. Therefore, if you apply the punishment fitting the crime theory, death is not cruel and unusual. ALL PEDOS MUST DIE. Not even as punishment, but because society is better without them.''"<ref>[https://www.openweb.com/share/2D25a6WBClFjcwvm4gvHZNcY9cJ Comment on NY Post: Georgia couple charged with using their adopted children to make child porn]</ref>


*'''YarlSoutan''':
*'''YarlSoutan''':
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*'''Johnson, Vaughan MP''':
*'''Johnson, Vaughan MP''':
::"''We find out how much guts they've got ... as one of them committed suicide yesterday and another one had a big go, but he must not have had the courage to do it properly. If they all went and did it first up, we wouldn't have this problem. They must be guilty if they commit suicide ... maybe I am too harsh but I've got no time for that.''"<ref>[http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23821079-661,00.html Vaughan Johnson calls for pedophiles to kill themselves]</ref>
::"''We find out how much guts they've got ... as one of them committed suicide yesterday and another one had a big go, but he must not have had the courage to do it properly. If they all went and did it first up, we wouldn't have this problem. They must be guilty if they commit suicide ... maybe I am too harsh but I've got no time for that.''"<ref>[http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23821079-661,00.html Vaughan Johnson calls for pedophiles to kill themselves]</ref>
[[File:Clown.png|thumb|Twitterati wants your partner dead]]


*'''Cole Branel. (2007)''':
*'''Cole Branel. (2007)''':
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::"''peadophilles, by definition, intend harm and trauma to children, who are the most innocent people on this planet. dont you dare try and claim that you deserve respect.''"
::"''peadophilles, by definition, intend harm and trauma to children, who are the most innocent people on this planet. dont you dare try and claim that you deserve respect.''"


*'''[[Shy Keenan]] (2007)''':
::''"Jail is the only proper place for him, not just because of what he has [ possessed [[indecent images of children]] ] done but because of the fact he promotes those views.''<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090923082402/http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article577444.ece Paedo's 'life" term slashed - The Sun]</ref>


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*'''HipForums (2004)'''
<hr>
::''"being attracted to pre-pubescent girls is a disease and a crime. ill be the first to admit that im an old man and wouldnt mind a teen age girlfriend, but your attractions are serious devient behaviour."''<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20100701051400/http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=6719 News of The World Debates: "The Big One: Paedophiles"]</ref>
 
 
:''"Jail is the only proper place for him, not just because of what he has [ possessed [[indecent images of children]] ] done but because of the fact he promotes those views."''
 
- '''[[Shy Keenan]], (2007). [http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article577444.ece Paedo's 'life" term slashed]'''
 
 
:''"being attracted to pre-pubescent girls is a disease and a crime. ill be the first to admit that im an old man and wouldnt mind a teen age girlfriend, but your attractions are serious devient behaviour."''
[[File:Twitter2.png|thumb|Classic troll mic-drop]]
- '''WayfaringStranger (2004) [http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=6719 "Do you find this abnormal or anything?"]'''


*'''Naomi (2008)''':
::''"the punishment should be more servre BRING BACK THE ELECTRIC CHAIR!!!!!"''<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20080309103109/http://blogs.notw.co.uk/thebigone/2008/02/paedophiles.html News of The World Debates: "The Big One: Paedophiles"]</ref>


:''"the punishment should be more servre BRING BACK THE ELECTRIC CHAIR!!!!!"''
*'''Answerbag.com (2008)''':
::''"Lock them in a cell and have them repeatedly raped. Repeat this from time to time until they are executed. This way they die a mental death many times over until they are granted the mercy of an execution. Sort of what their victims go through until they die."'' [other replies were similar in tone to this]<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20100106020841/http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/639197 What is a suitable punishment for a paedophile? How would you make the punishment fit the crime? - Answerbag]</ref>


- '''naomi (2008) [http://blogs.notw.co.uk/thebigone/2008/02/paedophiles.html#comment-104403000 "The Big One: Paedophiles"]'''
*'''People You See In Hell (2008)''':
::''"I’m sorry to say it but these guys deserve more then just hell. They deserve to be raped over and over with broken broom sticks like Jeffrey Dahmer! Man, I really don’t understand the child frenzy that is going on! People are molesting little kids, killing them, neglect. I’m sure the list goes on and gets worse and worse. And us people wonder why people get soo messed up when they get older. Maybe they were molested or hurt by someone and they learned from that person and started doing it to other because they think it is right. My parents we alcholics and abusive and I would NEVER carry that on to anyone. Man, I don’t even drink! I just don’t understand"''<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20080208124406/http://pysih.com/2008/02/06/jeffrey-brisson-and-harold-spurling/ "People You'll see in hell"]</ref>


===Law Enforcement Quotes===


:''"I wouldn't want them to die right away...I'd like them to experience the repeated ass raping several times, long after they are left begging for death, I'd give them a gas can with a little gas in it and a match...they can light themselves on fire in the middle of the prison yard...now that leaves an impression (...) Lock them in a cell and have them repeatedly raped. Repeat this from time to time until they are executed. This way they die a mental death many times over until they are granted the mercy of an execution. Sort of what their victims go through until they die." [other replies were similar in tone to this]''
All in the name of protecting children.


- '''Vampyre Bat (2008) [http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/639197 "Answerbag.com"]'''
*'''Bob Hamer (2021)''' on his infiltration of [[NAMBLA]]:
 
::''"I’d done a little research on the internet, and I found what I thought to be a great restaurant in Albuquerque. It was a five-star restaurant; it wasn’t coming out of my pocket, it was tax dollars, so I was going to eat big or go home. Man, we had a great meal; it got my undercover Yelp review, and I would recommend it to anyone."''<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipgJh_DlNkU True Spies: Inside NAMBLA]</ref>
 
:''"I’m sorry to say it but these guys deserve more then just hell. They deserve to be raped over and over with broken broom sticks like Jeffrey Dahmer! Man, I really don’t understand the child frenzy that is going on! People are molesting little kids, killing them, neglect. I’m sure the list goes on and gets worse and worse. And us people wonder why people get soo messed up when they get older. Maybe they were molested or hurt by someone and they learned from that person and started doing it to other because they think it is right. My parents we alcholics and abusive and I would NEVER carry that on to anyone. Man, I don’t even drink! I just don’t understand"''
 
- '''Jayni (2008) [http://pysih.com/2008/02/06/jeffrey-brisson-and-harold-spurling/ "People You'll see in hell"]'''


*'''Grady Judd (2022)''' after a successful sting that comprised of fake 14-year old "children":
::''"We will continue to conduct proactive operations like this to search out these evil predators before they get to our children. [...] Parents please get all in your child’s business when it comes to their use of electronic devices that gives them access to online gaming, mobile applications, texting, or the internet."''<ref>[https://breaking911.com/disney-employees-12-others-arrested-in-florida-child-sex-sting-sheriff/ Disney Employees, 12 Others Arrested In Florida Child Sex Sting: Sheriff]</ref>


===Quotes about [[Jack McClellan]]===
===Quotes about [[Jack McClellan]]===


:''"Remember, this isn't a guy that's "suspected" of anything - we *know* he's a pedophile. He freely admits to it. And one day, he *will* attempt illegal sexual contact."''
Various takes from the Seattle Post "Sound Off" debate: "'''''Blogs track man who calls self a pedophile'''''".<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20081020170753/http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/329158_pedophile27.html Blogs track man who calls self a pedophile - Seattle Post]</ref>


- '''"KarmaC" (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=329158 Sound Off]'''
*''"Remember, this isn't a guy that's "suspected" of anything - we *know* he's a pedophile. He freely admits to it. And one day, he *will* attempt illegal sexual contact."''
*''"I don't understand why he cannot be charged with a terroristic act because I live in absolute terror that what he does will put my grandchildren in danger. If that's not terrorism, what is? I'm more afraid of him that I am of Osama bin Laden."''
*''"if that dude was your neighbor, you'd run him out of town too. [...] now, if he were skulking around my neighborhood, he should look behind himself at all times. i'd hate to see somebody jump him. it may even be a group of people, who knows? you can't be too careful these days, you know?"''
*''"if he's trying to "prove" something by creating that website, then shame on him! That kind of thing terrifies parents, aunts, grandparents, etc. He can't possibly think that people won't be up in arms regarding something like this."''
*''"The notion that all we have to do is watch and wait for this guy to do something isn't very helpful. He should be in a theraputic setting. If he can't be "cured," at least the mental health and/or criminal justice communities could learn something about the course of the pathology."''
*''"McClellan hasn't been convicted of child rape or molestation, YET, but if allowed he WILL molest, he WILL rape, he is a ticking time bomb... [...] No one can change my opinion of pedophiles and no one can stop us from doing what we do, outing as many of them as we possibly can..."''
*''"The problem, for him, is the he has verbalized his sick, pathetic thoughts. Now, anyone with an aluminum bat and some balls should turn his knees into jello."''


==Philosopher's Corner (pseudo-intellectualism)==


:''"I don't understand why he cannot be charged with a terroristic act because I live in absolute terror that what he does will put my grandchildren in danger. If that's not terrorism, what is? I'm more afraid of him that I am of Osama bin Laden."''
This part of the list is reserved for those who represent professional organizations, or appear to be under the illusion they are making an intelligent argument.


- '''Unknown (deleted comment) (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/329158_pedophile27.html Sound Off]'''
*'''Larry Sanger (2019 - our links added)''':
::"''Even if the [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|<i>probability</i> of trauma]] were relatively slight, the <i>severity</i> of the harm can be so extreme that the act is simply not justifiable. [...] One sometimes hears that the word “pedophilia” applies only to desire for sex with pre-pubescent children, and that sex with older children is better called [[Research: Prevalence|“hebephilia” and “ephebophilia”]] depending on the age. One can draw this distinction, but narrowing the scope of the term has [[Special Article: Adverse effects of hysteria|little moral import]]. That is precisely why the word “pedophilia” continues to be popularly used as a general term. It applies to the crime of sex with the too-young in general. Let us be quite clear. The moral horror can attach just as much—or nearly as much, [[Rind et al|anyway—to sex with teens as with small children]]. [...] Some writers demand that everyone use the words “pedophilia” and “pedophile” according to senses defined by psychiatrists. But, just as we may opt not to extend our everyday use of [[Judith Reisman|“fruit”]] to tomatoes, even though biologists tell us they are fruit, so we may opt to continue to use these words in their popular senses. As a [[David Riegel|philosopher]], i.e., someone trained in the definition of concepts and argumentation over how to apply words, I want to advise the opposite: you may and should continue to use these words as you always have, at least in most contexts. A pedophile, in this popular sense, is someone who sexually abuses children, or who tries to do so, or who wants to. [...] [I]t is not fantasizing per se that makes pedophilia so evil. It is, first and foremost, [[Research: Recidivism and other offending figures|the risk]]. Anyone who is so out-of-control as to [[Debate Guide: Self-loathing hatred|permit these feelings to fester in himself]] is a risk, so far as the rest of us know, [[Research: Pedophiles in the criminal population|no matter what he may say]]. And while the fantasizing considered just by itself (without regard to its consequences) might not hurt anyone, [[Research: Child Pornography|it certainly does increase the risk]]. [...] For all their talk of virtuous pedophilia, many of the activists and activist researchers writing on this subject seem curiously reluctant to mention [[Research: Nonsexual aspects|''vicious'' pedophiles]]. In this regard they strike me as being—ironically, but predictably given what they are defending—both unrealistic and irrational. A more realistic and rational view acknowledges that the world is quite filled with weak people, and with far more [[Research: Psychopathy and abnormal psychology|malevolent people]] than appears on the surface, and they only too readily indulge their desires when the opportunity arises.''"<ref>[https://larrysanger.org/2019/12/why-pedophilia-is-evil/ Why Pedophilia is Evil (2019)]</ref>
*'''[[Andrew Vachss]] (1993)''':
::"''Chronic sexual predators [to Vachss, pedophiles] have crossed an osmotic membrane. They can’t step back to the other side - our side. And they don't want to. If we don't kill them or release them, we have but one choice. Call them monsters and isolate them.... I’ve spoken to many predators over the years. They always exhibit amazement that we do not hunt them. And that when we capture them, we eventually let them go. Our attitude is a deliberate interference with Darwinism - an endangerment of our species.''"<ref>[http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/j/p/jpj1/sin.htm "Go and Sin No More": Therapy and Exorcism in the Contemporary Rhetoric of Deviance]</ref>
*'''Marilyn Hawes - "Definition of a Paedophile" (child abuse consultant for "Enough Abuse" - defunct)''':
::"''Paedophile is a diagnostic name for those who have a sexual interest in pre-pubescent children. We will now refer to them as "Child Sex Abusers". [...] The interest in the child is SINISTER.''"<ref>Defunct child abuse consultancy by the UK talking head, Marilyn Hawes, unarchived at '''enoughabuse.co.uk/page106.htm''': "Definition of a Paedophile". Hawes, who has apparently "been on all the courses", now runs another charity, [https://freedom-abuse.org/author/marilyn/ Freedom-Abuse]</ref>


==Idiocy Museum (mainly 2020s social media irrationality)==


:''"if that dude was your neighbor, you'd run him out of town too.''
===Violent Impulses===


[..]
<gallery>
[[File:Screenshot 20210912-144006 Twitter.jpg|thumb|U R VICTIM WE R BORRRRRG X3]]
File:Slatznotrial.png|[[Anna Slatz]] and the comments that followed this tweet are revealing.
:''now, if he were skulking around my neighborhood, he should look behind himself at all times. i'd hate to see somebody jump him. it may even be a group of people, who knows? you can't be too careful these days, you know?"''
File:Degens.png|When the "radfem" mask slips.
File:Veggi.jpg|Unmistakably "Christian"
File:Holisticgenocide.png|<small>"Child Advocate" "Holistic Honey" ([https://secure.boychat.org/messages/1587041.htm Marina Camacho]) on her way to losing an 8-year old, 27k influencer account for suicide baiting pedophiles</small>
File:ImpliedDT.png|Stable
File:Smithandwesson.png|I've got a GUN!
File:Pureevil.jpg|Beat the "victims" violently
File:Deace.png|Talk Show Host - Better to execute pedophiles
</gallery>


- '''"CletusJR" (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=329158 Sound Off]'''
===Blind Hatred===


<gallery>Barnette.png|Kathy Barnette runs for Senate on an anti-MAP platform. <small>The state of her...</small>
File:Torl.png|All pedos are equal
File:Pedochild.png|Stable
File:Orc2.png|"Orc Society" now doxxing [[Preventionism|preventionists]]
File:Twttell.png|Toss them all in the airlock, inc. the "victims"
File:Radfems.png|Radfems - take the victims down as well
File:Rossjr.png|<small>Catboy attempts to follower-police. Comeback points to ugly link between deviance fetishism and [[Validity Policing|validity sadism]]. So many examples of this, it's insane</small>
File:Dni23.png|The mile-long DNI clownthread
File:Yr.png|<small>A ''Youth Rights'' Subreddit appeared to have admitted this faux-anarchist clown as a moderator</small>
File:Sevatar.png|Proud idiot
File:Welch.png|AMERICA Moment
File:Americamoment.png|Another America Moment
</gallery>


:''"if he's trying to "prove" something by creating that website, then shame on him! That kind of thing terrifies parents, aunts, grandparents, etc. He can't possibly think that people won't be up in arms regarding something like this."''
===General Illogic===
 
- '''"why_we_do" (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=329158 Sound Off]'''
 
 
:''"The notion that all we have to do is watch and wait for this guy to do something isn't very helpful. He should be in a theraputic setting. If he can't be "cured," at least the mental health and/or criminal justice communities could learn something about the course of the pathology."''
 
- '''"7Null_Seven" (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=329158 Sound Off]'''
 
 
:''"McClellan hasn't been convicted of child rape or molestation, YET, but if allowed he WILL molest, he WILL rape, he is a ticking time bomb...''
 
[..]
 
:''"No one can change my opinion of pedophiles and no one can stop us from doing what we do, outing as many of them as we possibly can..."''
 
- '''"Fred Witzell" (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=329158 Sound Off]'''
 
 
:''"The problem, for him, is the he has verbalized his sick, pathetic thoughts. Now, anyone with an aluminum bat and some balls should turn his knees into jello."''
 
- '''"PsyCoug" (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=329158 Sound Off]'''
 
==Idiocy Museum==


<gallery>
<gallery>
File:Veggi.jpg|Unmistakably "Christian"
File:Hild-hyp.png|Hypocritical Hilda
File:Holisticgenocide.png|<small>"Child Advocate" "Holistic Honey" ([https://secure.boychat.org/messages/1587041.htm Marina Camacho]) on her way to losing an 8-year old, 27k influencer account for suicide baiting pedophiles</small>
File:Speakenglish.png|America Moment: You can only consent if you speak English
KleinQuora.png|He's right because he's right
KleinQuora.png|He's right because he's right
Clown2.png|Eris believes the [[DSM]] is fake
Clown2.png|Eris believes the [[DSM]] is fake
File:Feels.jpg|Having the feelz is just as bad as acting on it, because they are kids
Screenshot 20211031-153227 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Stable
Screenshot 20211031-153227 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Stable
Screenshot 20211031-015419 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Logic
Screenshot 20211031-015419 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Logic
File:Screenshot 20211007-234250 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Unhealthy assault
File:Screenshot 20211007-234250 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Unhealthy assault
File:Screenshot 20211007-004531 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Urban Dictionary: RS
File:Screenshot 20211007-004531 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Urban Dictionary: RS
File:Screenshot 20210907-083905 Twitter.jpg|Kids, you are traumatizing yourself, and trauma is baaaad, mmkay!
File:Screenshot 20210908-103320 Twitter.jpg|When Linda Tirado was pushed (part 1)
File:Screenshot 20210908-103320 Twitter.jpg|When Linda Tirado was pushed (part 1)
File:Screenshot 20210908-103328 Twitter.jpg|She did this, then went crying to her followers (part 2)
File:Screenshot 20210908-103328 Twitter.jpg|She did this, then went crying to her followers (part 2)
File:Retread.png|Okay, pedo!
File:Retread.png|Okay, pedo!
File:Untitled2.png|Pedo opinion invalidates 7 years of biological development
File:Untitled2.png|Pedo opinion invalidates 7 years of biological development
File:Torl.png|All pedos are equal
File:Pedochild.png|Stable
File:Pantaloons.png|Oxford-level analysis of "grooming"
File:Pantaloons.png|Oxford-level analysis of "grooming"
File:Screenshot 20210918-215128 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Hornet - A gay dating firm - no sense of irony
File:Slatz.png|Anna Slatz thinks Prostasia is behind pro-choice socks
File:Tunneltrash.png|Tunnel Trash Conspiracy Theory
File:Micdrop.png|Masturbation is a good thing, pedophilia is not
File:Axolotl.png|Twitter evidence: Axolotl is pedophiliac
File:Muhconsent.png|Child can't consent to ANYTHING!
File:Zoostruggs.png|Zoophile Struggle Tweets/Zrcalo/Carlautta in another display of towering intellect
File:Autonomy.png|Liberating children is all about understanding they can't consent to shit!
File:Mcdowall.png|"Chairperson" of [https://welfare.scot/board-members Welfare Scotland]: <small>10 letters after his name and a blue tick seemingly can't save him from his own inability to google [[Prostasia Foundation|Prostasia]] or [[B4U-Act]].</small>
</gallery>
===You're meant to be the VICTIM, m'kay!===
<gallery>
File:Screenshot 20210907-083905 Twitter.jpg|Kids, you are traumatizing yourself, and trauma is baaaad, mmkay!
File:Victimtwitter.png|Gaslighting birdpeople strike again
File:Victimtwitter.png|Gaslighting birdpeople strike again
File:Theydontknow.png|They just ''think'' they wanted it!
File:Secondaryright.png|Kids have a right to be traumatized
File:Theylikeit.png|No1. excuse - They like it!
File:Orgasmnotconsent.png|PLEASURE IS NOT CONSENT!!!!111
</gallery>
===Age Neurosis===
<gallery>
File:Nothuman.png|Under 18? Not human...
File:18child.png|They are children...
File:Tiktok.png|<small>A grim reminder that simply ignoring TikTok doesn't mean that it will cease to exist</small>
File:Tiktok.png|<small>A grim reminder that simply ignoring TikTok doesn't mean that it will cease to exist</small>
File:Rossjr.png|<small>Catboy attempts to follower-police. Comeback points to ugly link between deviance fetishism and [[Validity Policing|validity sadism]]. So many examples of this, it's insane.</small>
File:Screenshot 20211224-095428 DuckDuckGo.jpg|"The purpose of children is to conform to my prejudices"
File:Screenshot 20211224-095428 DuckDuckGo.jpg|"The purpose of children is to conform to my prejudices"
File:E q yPtXEAMQmgS.png|Muh "age gap"
File:E q yPtXEAMQmgS.png|Muh "age gap"
File:FEjQAZrWYAkGmK4.jpg|iTs tHe ScIEnCe
File:FEi6n28X0AQsO3L.jpg|Hierarchy of predation
File:FEi6n28X0AQsO3L.jpg|Hierarchy of predation
File:Screenshot 20210918-215128 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Hornet - A gay dating firm - no sense of irony
File:Notthinking.png|<small>Young animals can't consent, and a genital organ is analogous to a live firearm, '''oh, and 7,000 people agree'''</small>
File:Notthinking.png|<small>Young animals can't consent, and a genital organ is analogous to a live firearm, '''oh, and 7,000 people agree'''</small>
File:17vs18.png|In many cases, there is a big difference between 17 and 18.
File:Careaboutage.png|Age-neurosis
File:HOWISHECONFIDENT.png|21 with 18... HOW IS HE CONFIDENT?
File:Amerikahmoment.png|Would it be a burn if he said yes?
File:Fuckorkill.png|Poll concludes that we would rather kill children
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==Philosopher's Corner==
===Muh Brainzzzzz===


This part of the list is reserved for those who represent professional organizations, or appear to be under the illusion they are making an intelligent argument.
<gallery>File:Epstein.png|Epsteins everywhere.
 
File:FEjQAZrWYAkGmK4.jpg|iTs tHe ScIEnCe
:"''Chronic sexual predators [to Vachss, pedophiles] have crossed an osmotic membrane. They can’t step back to the other side - our side. And they don't want to. If we don't kill them or release them, we have but one choice. Call them monsters and isolate them.... I’ve spoken to many predators over the years. They always exhibit amazement that we do not hunt them. And that when we capture them, we eventually let them go. Our attitude is a deliberate interference with Darwinism - an endangerment of our species.''"
File:Muhbrain.png|Less brain development is a grooming
 
File:Puberty.png|18 Year olds are still children</gallery>
- '''[[Andrew Vachss]], (1993). Quoted in [http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/j/p/jpj1/sin.htm "Go and Sin No More": Therapy and Exorcism in the Contemporary Rhetoric of Deviance].'''
 
 
:"''Paedophile is a diagnostic name for those who have a sexual interest in pre-pubescent children. We will now refer to them as "Child Sex Abusers.''"
 
[..]
 
:''The interest in the child is SINISTER.''"
 
- '''[[Marilyn Hawes]], "[http://www.enoughabuse.co.uk/page106.htm Definition of a Paedophile]"'''
 
 
:"''Even if the [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|<i>probability</i> of trauma]] were relatively slight, the <i>severity</i> of the harm can be so extreme that the act is simply not justifiable. [...] One sometimes hears that the word “pedophilia” applies only to desire for sex with pre-pubescent children, and that sex with older children is better called [[Research: Prevalence|“hebephilia” and “ephebophilia”]] depending on the age. One can draw this distinction, but narrowing the scope of the term has [[Special Article: Adverse effects of hysteria|little moral import]]. That is precisely why the word “pedophilia” continues to be popularly used as a general term. It applies to the crime of sex with the too-young in general. Let us be quite clear. The moral horror can attach just as much—or nearly as much, [[Rind et al|anyway—to sex with teens as with small children]]. [...] Some writers demand that everyone use the words “pedophilia” and “pedophile” according to senses defined by psychiatrists. But, just as we may opt not to extend our everyday use of [[Judith Reisman|“fruit”]] to tomatoes, even though biologists tell us they are fruit, so we may opt to continue to use these words in their popular senses. As a [[David Riegel|philosopher]], i.e., someone trained in the definition of concepts and argumentation over how to apply words, I want to advise the opposite: you may and should continue to use these words as you always have, at least in most contexts. A pedophile, in this popular sense, is someone who sexually abuses children, or who tries to do so, or who wants to. [...] [I]t is not fantasizing per se that makes pedophilia so evil. It is, first and foremost, [[Research: Recidivism and other offending figures|the risk]]. Anyone who is so out-of-control as to [[Debate Guide: Self-loathing hatred|permit these feelings to fester in himself]] is a risk, so far as the rest of us know, [[Research: Pedophiles in the criminal population|no matter what he may say]]. And while the fantasizing considered just by itself (without regard to its consequences) might not hurt anyone, [[Research: Child Pornography|it certainly does increase the risk]]. [...] For all their talk of virtuous pedophilia, many of the activists and activist researchers writing on this subject seem curiously reluctant to mention [[Research: Nonsexual aspects|''vicious'' pedophiles]]. In this regard they strike me as being—ironically, but predictably given what they are defending—both unrealistic and irrational. A more realistic and rational view acknowledges that the world is quite filled with weak people, and with far more [[Research: Psychopathy and abnormal psychology|malevolent people]] than appears on the surface, and they only too readily indulge their desires when the opportunity arises.''"
 
- '''Larry Sanger, "[https://larrysanger.org/2019/12/why-pedophilia-is-evil/ Why Pedophilia is Evil (2019)]" (our links added)'''


==References==
==References==


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This article lists some selected quotes which show the extreme hatred faced by MAPs, particularly pedophiles. You might be familiar with pedophile-in-woodchipper type memes, Pedocillin prescriptions and "BRING BACK THE PEAR!", but here, we try to go a bit beyond that and fully document the pathology and idiocy of many of these individuals.

Select quotes (mainly mid-00s violent impulses)

  • Xavier von Erck, when questioned about his anti-pedophile organisation's role in child protection:
"No, it’s because pedophiles are disgusting people. Like you. That’s why we go after them. Protecting kids is just a side benefit. My goal is not to protect minors. It's to go after pedophiles."[1]
  • Garrett Osbon (2021) - Prison Guard, Chillicothe Correctional Institution - Ohio, on his treatment of an offender convicted of photographing his partner (2 years junior):
"It feels good to know that I played a small part in paralyzing a cho, LMAO."[2]
  • Marina H (Stitches77) - Vigilante for Absolute Zero, commenting on the online MAPs she pursues:
"I'm not sympathetic at all. In fact, the proudest day of my life will be when one of them kills himself and leaves a note saying "I can't take it anymore. Stitches drove me to it""[3]
  • Graymin (2022):
"The fourth amendment protects us from 'cruel and unusual punishment'. There has to be a legal argument that says nothing is more 'cruel and unusual' than what pedophiles do. Therefore, if you apply the punishment fitting the crime theory, death is not cruel and unusual. ALL PEDOS MUST DIE. Not even as punishment, but because society is better without them."[4]
  • YarlSoutan:
"Nigel Oldfeild, your days are numbered. Our allies in the BNP and in Redwatch [Operator of Noncewatch - Ed.] are getting closer to you everyday. You will pay for what you have done, and no man, God, or government will save you. 88"[5]
  • Anonymous Answerphone message to the Academic, John DeCecco:
"I'm coming over tonight and put a bullet through your head - did you hear me? I'm coming to put a bullet through your worthless empty fucking head so you can drown in your own fucking blood."[6]
  • Unknown (speaking from assumed expertise):
"[T]he psycology and thought prossess of the pedofile is so vastly different from normal humanity as to consider them not to be truly human. [...] Pedofiles have hightened sences of touch smell and taste. They are more animal than human. [...] At an estimated 3 billion pedophiles with in the U.S. alone and an estimated cost of $200 a day matanance for each one, It would quickly drain our economy to do this. [bold added]"[7]
  • Richard Griffiths, (2006):
"Now, me, paedophiles, if it was left to me, I would hurt them so much it would upset and shock everybody in the country. I can think of really nasty things that I would like to see done to them. And I wouldn't care if it didn't change their behaviour - it would just certainly put them on notice that if you do this, you will have your skin removed, you will be made to go around to do really painful things before you're allowed to die. [...] I’d feed all paedophiles into a tree shredder (...) and anything left the police can have."[8]
  • Johnson, Vaughan MP:
"We find out how much guts they've got ... as one of them committed suicide yesterday and another one had a big go, but he must not have had the courage to do it properly. If they all went and did it first up, we wouldn't have this problem. They must be guilty if they commit suicide ... maybe I am too harsh but I've got no time for that."[9]
  • Cole Branel. (2007):
"you need to see the wood through the trees, if we kill all paedophiles then children and their parents will no longer be supressed. DEATH TO ALL PAEDOPHILES"[10]
  • Cole Branel. (2007):
"For any long time readers you will know my views - Death and execution to all all paedophiles and that would apply to all types of downloaded child porn and not just the very worst."[11]
  • Cole Branel. (2007):
"if ever there was a subject that makes me foam at the mouth like a rabid dog, it is those sick, disgusting, depraved people we all loathe - Paedophiles."
"Andrew Barker - Convicted Paedophile from Worthing West Sussex. I’m sick of this moderate society we live in, I’m sick of the do-gooders who think there is good in everyone. I’m sick of religion and of religious people. I’m sick of the nanny state authority."
"Believe me, we live in a dictatorship, not a democratic society! It’s just that most people are too stupid to realise."
"BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY - LET’S RID THIS ONCE GREAT NATION OF THE SCUM!"
"I’m sick of it all because the millions of decent people who live in the UK are subjected to inferior lives because the liberal people in authority insist on keeping scum such as paedophiles alive."[12]
  • User comments on a now deleted blog:
"Why didn't you use that rifle to kill yourself? It's what you wanted to do. It's what you still want to do. Coward. Don't presume that you have the right to judge me. You don't. But I have judged you. And I find you guilty and deserving of a slow and merciless death for all the pain and suffering that you have caused. [...] how about a final "solution", filth? step into my oven, it's time for a pedophile holocaust! [...] And if the loss of my soul is the price I have to pay for destroying evil like you, I will do it gladly and without hesitation. Can you say the same, filth?"
"The best thing us anti’s can do ist expose all of you and let the vigilantes beat your fucking brains out."[13]
  • Sojourner" (2007):
"Just to clarify gentlemen, I am neither irrational nor vengeful, and I am most certainly no fool. The majority of Canadians support the reinstatement of the death penalty and have done so ever since it was abolished in Canada in the 70s. I happen to be in that majority. A recent, admittedly non-scientfic, poll in my community indicates just under 70% of the respondents favour the death penalty for pedophiles. We can't all possibly be insane and vengeful now can we? They and I support the death penalty because we know pedophiles are dangerous to the wellbeing of our children. It really is that simple."[14]
  • Unknown, YouTube.com:
"peadophilles, by definition, intend harm and trauma to children, who are the most innocent people on this planet. dont you dare try and claim that you deserve respect."
"Jail is the only proper place for him, not just because of what he has [ possessed indecent images of children ] done but because of the fact he promotes those views.[15]
  • HipForums (2004)
"being attracted to pre-pubescent girls is a disease and a crime. ill be the first to admit that im an old man and wouldnt mind a teen age girlfriend, but your attractions are serious devient behaviour."[16]
  • Naomi (2008):
"the punishment should be more servre BRING BACK THE ELECTRIC CHAIR!!!!!"[17]
  • Answerbag.com (2008):
"Lock them in a cell and have them repeatedly raped. Repeat this from time to time until they are executed. This way they die a mental death many times over until they are granted the mercy of an execution. Sort of what their victims go through until they die." [other replies were similar in tone to this][18]
  • People You See In Hell (2008):
"I’m sorry to say it but these guys deserve more then just hell. They deserve to be raped over and over with broken broom sticks like Jeffrey Dahmer! Man, I really don’t understand the child frenzy that is going on! People are molesting little kids, killing them, neglect. I’m sure the list goes on and gets worse and worse. And us people wonder why people get soo messed up when they get older. Maybe they were molested or hurt by someone and they learned from that person and started doing it to other because they think it is right. My parents we alcholics and abusive and I would NEVER carry that on to anyone. Man, I don’t even drink! I just don’t understand"[19]

Law Enforcement Quotes

All in the name of protecting children.

  • Bob Hamer (2021) on his infiltration of NAMBLA:
"I’d done a little research on the internet, and I found what I thought to be a great restaurant in Albuquerque. It was a five-star restaurant; it wasn’t coming out of my pocket, it was tax dollars, so I was going to eat big or go home. Man, we had a great meal; it got my undercover Yelp review, and I would recommend it to anyone."[20]
  • Grady Judd (2022) after a successful sting that comprised of fake 14-year old "children":
"We will continue to conduct proactive operations like this to search out these evil predators before they get to our children. [...] Parents please get all in your child’s business when it comes to their use of electronic devices that gives them access to online gaming, mobile applications, texting, or the internet."[21]

Quotes about Jack McClellan

Various takes from the Seattle Post "Sound Off" debate: "Blogs track man who calls self a pedophile".[22]

  • "Remember, this isn't a guy that's "suspected" of anything - we *know* he's a pedophile. He freely admits to it. And one day, he *will* attempt illegal sexual contact."
  • "I don't understand why he cannot be charged with a terroristic act because I live in absolute terror that what he does will put my grandchildren in danger. If that's not terrorism, what is? I'm more afraid of him that I am of Osama bin Laden."
  • "if that dude was your neighbor, you'd run him out of town too. [...] now, if he were skulking around my neighborhood, he should look behind himself at all times. i'd hate to see somebody jump him. it may even be a group of people, who knows? you can't be too careful these days, you know?"
  • "if he's trying to "prove" something by creating that website, then shame on him! That kind of thing terrifies parents, aunts, grandparents, etc. He can't possibly think that people won't be up in arms regarding something like this."
  • "The notion that all we have to do is watch and wait for this guy to do something isn't very helpful. He should be in a theraputic setting. If he can't be "cured," at least the mental health and/or criminal justice communities could learn something about the course of the pathology."
  • "McClellan hasn't been convicted of child rape or molestation, YET, but if allowed he WILL molest, he WILL rape, he is a ticking time bomb... [...] No one can change my opinion of pedophiles and no one can stop us from doing what we do, outing as many of them as we possibly can..."
  • "The problem, for him, is the he has verbalized his sick, pathetic thoughts. Now, anyone with an aluminum bat and some balls should turn his knees into jello."

Philosopher's Corner (pseudo-intellectualism)

This part of the list is reserved for those who represent professional organizations, or appear to be under the illusion they are making an intelligent argument.

  • Larry Sanger (2019 - our links added):
"Even if the probability of trauma were relatively slight, the severity of the harm can be so extreme that the act is simply not justifiable. [...] One sometimes hears that the word “pedophilia” applies only to desire for sex with pre-pubescent children, and that sex with older children is better called “hebephilia” and “ephebophilia” depending on the age. One can draw this distinction, but narrowing the scope of the term has little moral import. That is precisely why the word “pedophilia” continues to be popularly used as a general term. It applies to the crime of sex with the too-young in general. Let us be quite clear. The moral horror can attach just as much—or nearly as much, anyway—to sex with teens as with small children. [...] Some writers demand that everyone use the words “pedophilia” and “pedophile” according to senses defined by psychiatrists. But, just as we may opt not to extend our everyday use of “fruit” to tomatoes, even though biologists tell us they are fruit, so we may opt to continue to use these words in their popular senses. As a philosopher, i.e., someone trained in the definition of concepts and argumentation over how to apply words, I want to advise the opposite: you may and should continue to use these words as you always have, at least in most contexts. A pedophile, in this popular sense, is someone who sexually abuses children, or who tries to do so, or who wants to. [...] [I]t is not fantasizing per se that makes pedophilia so evil. It is, first and foremost, the risk. Anyone who is so out-of-control as to permit these feelings to fester in himself is a risk, so far as the rest of us know, no matter what he may say. And while the fantasizing considered just by itself (without regard to its consequences) might not hurt anyone, it certainly does increase the risk. [...] For all their talk of virtuous pedophilia, many of the activists and activist researchers writing on this subject seem curiously reluctant to mention vicious pedophiles. In this regard they strike me as being—ironically, but predictably given what they are defending—both unrealistic and irrational. A more realistic and rational view acknowledges that the world is quite filled with weak people, and with far more malevolent people than appears on the surface, and they only too readily indulge their desires when the opportunity arises."[23]
"Chronic sexual predators [to Vachss, pedophiles] have crossed an osmotic membrane. They can’t step back to the other side - our side. And they don't want to. If we don't kill them or release them, we have but one choice. Call them monsters and isolate them.... I’ve spoken to many predators over the years. They always exhibit amazement that we do not hunt them. And that when we capture them, we eventually let them go. Our attitude is a deliberate interference with Darwinism - an endangerment of our species."[24]
  • Marilyn Hawes - "Definition of a Paedophile" (child abuse consultant for "Enough Abuse" - defunct):
"Paedophile is a diagnostic name for those who have a sexual interest in pre-pubescent children. We will now refer to them as "Child Sex Abusers". [...] The interest in the child is SINISTER."[25]

Idiocy Museum (mainly 2020s social media irrationality)

Violent Impulses

Blind Hatred

General Illogic

You're meant to be the VICTIM, m'kay!

Age Neurosis

Muh Brainzzzzz

References