Girllove: Difference between revisions

From NewgonWiki
Jump to navigation Jump to search
(New page: A girllover is an adult or adolescent who is strongly attracted to girls under the age of consent. "Girllover" is considered analogous to "boylover" in that both label individuals ...)
 
mNo edit summary
(24 intermediate revisions by 4 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
A girllover is an adult or adolescent who is strongly attracted to girls under the [[age of consent]]. "Girllover" is considered analogous to "[[boylover]]" in that both label individuals primarily attracted to children or teenagers. Often, individuals wishing to refer to both boylovers and girllovers collectively (or to an individual who is attracted to both boys and girls) will use the ambiguous term "[[childlover]]."
__NOTOC__{{MAI}}'''Girllove''' is a strong physical-erotic attraction to [[girl]]s, and someone experiencing it may be identified as a girllover. "Girllover" is considered analogous to "[[boylove]]r" in that both label individuals primarily attracted to children or teenagers. Often, individuals wishing to refer to both boylovers and girllovers collectively (or to an individual who is attracted to both boys and girls) will use the ambiguous terms [[Minor Attracted Person]], [[Youthlove]]r, or [[Childlove]]r.


Some people, mostly boylovers, believe that this similarity is purely cosmetic and that beyond the coincedence of having a child as the object of one's attraction, the two attractions are qualitatively different. Boylover proponents of this view point to the ability of an adult male to serve as a mentor and role model to a boy, in a sense teaching him "how to be a man," which they claim has no analogue in a girllove relationship. Also, the potential of impregnating a girl adds a dynamic to a sexual relationship which is not present for boylovers. Girllovers may respond that an adult male is equally able to serve as a mentor and role model to a girl and point to the fact that many childlovers find penetrative sex with children objectionable (and some find all sex objectionable for various reasons).
==As a social identity and movement==


Others, however, point to the identical societal rejection of both attractions and the similar treatment of boylovers and girllovers in the mass media, the legislature and the popular consciousness as an indication that there is more in common between the two groups than there is different.
The idea of girllove as an identity, goes back at least three decades - as seen in the title of [[Lawrence A. Stanley]]'s quarterly newsletter, ''[[Uncommon Desires]]'': “the voice of a politically conscious girl-love underground” in the late 80s.<ref>[https://www.brongersma.info/images/UD_03.pdf Uncommon Desires 2 - 1989]</ref> It had even been mentioned ironically by Samuel McCracken in a 1979 Military Chaplain's Review - juxtaposing its implausibility against the very real [[boylove]] activism surrounding the [[Boston-Boise affair|Boston Sex Scandal]]. It is likely, however, that the less stylized "heterosexual pedophile" (sometimes shortened to "heteroped") predominated before then. Such was used by [[Paedophile Information Exchange|PIE]]'s [[David Joy]] in reference to the contemporary discourse among British Pedophiles, and [[Frits Bernard]], both in the 80s.<ref>[https://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/secrets-of-the-pie-men-21-8-82/ Secrets of the PIE Men - Press Cutting from 1982]</ref><ref>[http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/dutch_movement_text.htm Dr. Frits Bernard] (Autumn 1987). "The Dutch Paedophile Emancipation Movement". Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia. 1 (2): 35–45.</ref> [[Thomas O'Carroll]] also confirms that girllovers were rare and marginalized in the first wave and sometimes referred to as "hets" or "hetpeds" (see gallery).


While the debate about exactly how connected the two sexual preferences and their respective communities actually are is still very much active, there is a general agreement among many of the more important resources (such as [[Free Spirits]] and GirlChat) that when it comes to certain issues there is nothing to lose by working together. Thus there has always been a technical cooperation between administrations of various resources on all sides. An excellent example of this cooperation is LifeLine, a crisis-intervention resource that serves both communities.
Some people (such as the late [[David Riegel]]) believe that beyond the coincedence of having a child as the object of one's attraction, the two attractions are qualitatively different. Boylover proponents of this view point to the ability of an adult male to serve as a mentor and role model to a boy, in a sense teaching him "how to be a man," which they claim has no analogue in a girllove relationship. Also, the potential of impregnating a girl adds a dynamic to a sexual relationship which is not present for adult male boylovers. Girllovers may respond that an adult male is equally able to serve as a mentor and role model to a girl and point to the fact that many childlovers find penetrative sex with children objectionable (indeed, some even find all sex objectionable).
 
Others, however, point to the identical societal rejection of both attractions and the similar treatment of boylovers and girllovers in the mass media, the legislature and the popular consciousness as an indication that there is more in common between the two groups than there is different. There is a general agreement among many of the more important resources (such as [[Free Spirits]] and [[GirlChat]]) that when it comes to certain issues there is nothing to lose by working together. Thus there has always been some technical cooperation between administrations of various resources on all sides. An excellent example of this cooperation is [[LifeLine]], a crisis-intervention resource that serves both communities.


An example of such cooperation can be cited from the early days of Free Spirits. A well-known GL activist and attorney provided Free Spirits with legal advice and assistance as Free Spirits was being formed and organized. Free Spirits provided him with technical advice with respect to his hosting some of his resources on the Internet.
An example of such cooperation can be cited from the early days of Free Spirits. A well-known GL activist and attorney provided Free Spirits with legal advice and assistance as Free Spirits was being formed and organized. Free Spirits provided him with technical advice with respect to his hosting some of his resources on the Internet.
==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Mcr.png|1979 mention
File:TocGL.png|[[Thomas O'Carroll]] explains further the move from Heterosexual Pedophile to Girllover
File:GLogo.png|A GLogo
</gallery>
==See also==
*[[GLogo]]
*[[Intergenerational Lesbianism]]
==References==
[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]] [[Category:Terminology]][[Category:Terminology: MAP]]
[[Category: Countries and Cultures]][[Category:Countries and Cultures: Subcultures]][[Category:Facts of life]]

Revision as of 00:54, 15 October 2022

Part of NewgonWiki's series on
minor-attracted identities
Starting Guide | Community | Pediverse
MAP | NOMAP | AAM | Neologisms
"MAP" Origins | Flag | Movement
Political history: MAP & LGBT Alliances
Philias: Ephebo - Hebe - Pedo - Nepio
Gender and attraction: BL - EL - GL
Pederasty/Gay BL | Korephilia/Lesbian GL
Pro-c | Neutral-c | Anti-c
BLogo | GLogo
Category: Minor-attracted people
Template:MAI - This template

Girllove is a strong physical-erotic attraction to girls, and someone experiencing it may be identified as a girllover. "Girllover" is considered analogous to "boylover" in that both label individuals primarily attracted to children or teenagers. Often, individuals wishing to refer to both boylovers and girllovers collectively (or to an individual who is attracted to both boys and girls) will use the ambiguous terms Minor Attracted Person, Youthlover, or Childlover.

As a social identity and movement

The idea of girllove as an identity, goes back at least three decades - as seen in the title of Lawrence A. Stanley's quarterly newsletter, Uncommon Desires: “the voice of a politically conscious girl-love underground” in the late 80s.[1] It had even been mentioned ironically by Samuel McCracken in a 1979 Military Chaplain's Review - juxtaposing its implausibility against the very real boylove activism surrounding the Boston Sex Scandal. It is likely, however, that the less stylized "heterosexual pedophile" (sometimes shortened to "heteroped") predominated before then. Such was used by PIE's David Joy in reference to the contemporary discourse among British Pedophiles, and Frits Bernard, both in the 80s.[2][3] Thomas O'Carroll also confirms that girllovers were rare and marginalized in the first wave and sometimes referred to as "hets" or "hetpeds" (see gallery).

Some people (such as the late David Riegel) believe that beyond the coincedence of having a child as the object of one's attraction, the two attractions are qualitatively different. Boylover proponents of this view point to the ability of an adult male to serve as a mentor and role model to a boy, in a sense teaching him "how to be a man," which they claim has no analogue in a girllove relationship. Also, the potential of impregnating a girl adds a dynamic to a sexual relationship which is not present for adult male boylovers. Girllovers may respond that an adult male is equally able to serve as a mentor and role model to a girl and point to the fact that many childlovers find penetrative sex with children objectionable (indeed, some even find all sex objectionable).

Others, however, point to the identical societal rejection of both attractions and the similar treatment of boylovers and girllovers in the mass media, the legislature and the popular consciousness as an indication that there is more in common between the two groups than there is different. There is a general agreement among many of the more important resources (such as Free Spirits and GirlChat) that when it comes to certain issues there is nothing to lose by working together. Thus there has always been some technical cooperation between administrations of various resources on all sides. An excellent example of this cooperation is LifeLine, a crisis-intervention resource that serves both communities.

An example of such cooperation can be cited from the early days of Free Spirits. A well-known GL activist and attorney provided Free Spirits with legal advice and assistance as Free Spirits was being formed and organized. Free Spirits provided him with technical advice with respect to his hosting some of his resources on the Internet.

Gallery

See also

References

  1. Uncommon Desires 2 - 1989
  2. Secrets of the PIE Men - Press Cutting from 1982
  3. Dr. Frits Bernard (Autumn 1987). "The Dutch Paedophile Emancipation Movement". Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia. 1 (2): 35–45.